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2024-12-15T01:53:47Z < thedaemon> evening

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2024-12-15T08:15:05Z < kpm> morning

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2024-12-15T08:36:18Z < cow_2001> we had a "fucken.... tits! lol" guy here

2024-12-15T08:36:24Z < cow_2001> kpm groan

2024-12-15T10:45:46Z < kpm> who the hell was the fucken tits guy

2024-12-15T10:46:38Z <@Reid> some zero_cool guy, if only someone had caught a glympse of their cloak to see what they were authenticated as

2024-12-15T10:50:34Z < cow_2001> i am not a tattle tale

2024-12-15T10:51:24Z <@Reid> tattle tale?

2024-12-15T10:52:00Z < cow_2001> a rat

2024-12-15T10:52:05Z < cow_2001> informer

2024-12-15T10:52:15Z <@Reid> oh

2024-12-15T10:52:52Z < cow_2001> if someone wants to say naughty words i would never come in his or hers way

2024-12-15T10:53:11Z <@Reid> no naughty words were said, tho, they were talking about birds!

2024-12-15T10:53:13Z < cow_2001> DOWN WITH THE PURITARCHY

2024-12-15T10:55:10Z < cow_2001> Reid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimoneta

2024-12-15T11:24:41Z < prahou> what's this then

2024-12-15T11:25:11Z < prahou> zero_cool is deadnet.se guys

2024-12-15T11:25:31Z < kpm> fucken.... tits !!

2024-12-15T11:27:02Z < prahou> I'm not gonna do much mental gymnastics

2024-12-15T11:27:21Z < prahou> but last night was also the night he posted a picture of an empty bottle of some alcohol on his imgram

2024-12-15T11:27:37Z < prahou> probably having a good time

2024-12-15T11:28:09Z < prahou> anyway, happy Sunday y'all

2024-12-15T11:28:18Z < prahou> I have to go cook Reid's ancestral food

2024-12-15T11:29:25Z < kpm> prahou: this might explain the no-context titposting

2024-12-15T11:29:40Z < kpm> happy Sunday to you too!

2024-12-15T11:29:43Z < prahou> that's my humble interpratation

2024-12-15T11:29:46Z < prahou> kpm: you too :3

2024-12-15T11:30:08Z < prahou> also by Reid's ancestral food I meant gnocchi

2024-12-15T11:30:12Z < prahou> because it's Italian

2024-12-15T11:30:21Z < prahou> and his ancestors were the Romans of the roman empire

2024-12-15T11:30:25Z < prahou> which was mostly in Italy

2024-12-15T11:31:35Z < cow_2001> kpm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzcD4ZLxlTw

2024-12-15T11:32:05Z < cow_2001> literally me

2024-12-15T11:32:07Z < cow_2001> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFsB8OicFOE

2024-12-15T11:32:10Z < cow_2001> frfr

2024-12-15T11:33:57Z < kpm> i don't understand a word

2024-12-15T11:33:59Z < kpm> is this english

2024-12-15T11:37:21Z <@Reid> prahou: gnocchi is gud

2024-12-15T11:37:36Z < prahou> indeed

2024-12-15T11:38:48Z < prahou> als pls vote https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/26466697

2024-12-15T11:49:14Z < cow_2001> kpm: it is Glasweg

2024-12-15T11:49:41Z < cow_2001> kpm: i understand every word now, but when i started it was gibberish

2024-12-15T11:50:25Z < cow_2001> if it was in His Majesty's (Her Majesty's at the time) English, it would not have been as good

2024-12-15T12:21:38Z < cow_2001> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XwAm7qr_fc

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2024-12-15T13:04:24Z < prahou> morgon

2024-12-15T13:04:37Z < redruM> Freeman?

2024-12-15T13:05:18Z < prahou> Not that I wish to imply you have been... sleeping on the job...

2024-12-15T13:06:20Z < prahou> is HL2 reference to lame?

2024-12-15T13:06:22Z < prahou> too

2024-12-15T13:06:23Z <@Reid> the right man in the wrong place can make all... the difference... in the world...

2024-12-15T13:06:34Z < prahou> Gorgon Freeman

2024-12-15T13:06:37Z <@Reid> prahou: I hope that answers your question

2024-12-15T13:06:39Z < prahou> oh thank god

2024-12-15T13:06:47Z < prahou> :D

2024-12-15T13:06:51Z < redruM> Wake up, Reid, and small the ashes.

2024-12-15T13:07:10Z < prahou> Don't drink the water, they put something in it to make you forget. I don't even remember how I got here.

2024-12-15T13:07:38Z < redruM> My brother was supposed to be in that train.

2024-12-15T13:08:28Z < prahou> I'm afraid that's all I go

2024-12-15T13:08:28Z < prahou> t

2024-12-15T13:08:29Z < prahou> :D

2024-12-15T13:09:06Z < prahou> speaking of HL, I accepted Epistle3 as the canonically ending, refusing to play the stupid waiting game with Valve

2024-12-15T13:09:13Z < redruM> With your brawn and my brains, we'll make an excellent team.

2024-12-15T13:09:15Z <@Reid> prahou: you drank that water because you didn't prepare for unforeseen consequences

2024-12-15T13:09:46Z < prahou> then I saw the retcon in HL: Alyx

2024-12-15T13:09:50Z < prahou> I can't keep up with this shit anymore

2024-12-15T13:09:53Z < prahou> I'm too old for that

2024-12-15T13:09:55Z < redruM> prahou: Yeah, read it years ago, from Mark's website.

2024-12-15T13:10:04Z <@Reid> Half-Life and retcons? No way!

2024-12-15T13:10:25Z <@Reid> (tbh Half-Life retcons prob as much as The Elder Scrolls game to game, there's just fewer games to do the retcons)

2024-12-15T13:10:28Z < prahou> redruM: it felt like a really satisfying ending

2024-12-15T13:10:31Z < prahou> pretty dark

2024-12-15T13:10:34Z < prahou> but very fitting

2024-12-15T13:10:42Z < redruM> prahou: It's okay, Doctor Kleiner. ;)

2024-12-15T13:10:57Z < cow_2001> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6PNZBb6b9LvDWpI-5CPYUxG1Rnm-vr9V

2024-12-15T13:11:16Z < prahou> cow_2001: I knew what it was before I even opened it lol

2024-12-15T13:11:42Z < cow_2001> yes

2024-12-15T13:11:51Z < cow_2001> i love ross scott :(

2024-12-15T13:12:01Z < prahou> we know

2024-12-15T13:12:25Z < cow_2001> almost no output

2024-12-15T13:12:27Z < redruM> https://github.com/FWGS/xash3d-fwgs/

2024-12-15T13:12:33Z < prahou> also jouwbuis.nl seems dead

2024-12-15T13:12:43Z < kpm> https://img.krzysckh.org/291d3e10d996b9590a718565f00bfbbd0ad02bef/res/1691183400.jpg

2024-12-15T13:12:47Z < kpm> finger(1) or something idk

2024-12-15T13:12:50Z < cow_2001> why would he not pick up the pace?

2024-12-15T13:13:00Z < cow_2001> jewboyz.il

2024-12-15T13:13:17Z < prahou> kpm: gonna need some context, pls

2024-12-15T13:13:19Z < prahou> oh

2024-12-15T13:13:34Z < prahou> cow_2001: there was/is already jewtu.be

2024-12-15T13:13:35Z < cow_2001> warhammer forty thousand themed ork jews!

2024-12-15T13:13:37Z < prahou> i mean yewtu.be

2024-12-15T13:13:38Z < kpm> prahou: there is no context

2024-12-15T13:13:43Z < prahou> kpm: just how we like it

2024-12-15T13:13:59Z < kpm> feels almost... surreal

2024-12-15T13:14:01Z < kpm> one could say

2024-12-15T13:14:24Z < prahou> wait is this you? https://img.krzysckh.org/

2024-12-15T13:14:28Z < kpm> yeah

2024-12-15T13:14:42Z < redruM> https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=7GJ1CQ8A9cE&list=PLROPEGMEdNKK0bJ4shZkbxCqteDXIRwH0&index=0

2024-12-15T13:14:52Z < prahou> i wonder if I could add it to subversive pics

2024-12-15T13:15:38Z < prahou> I love that the public invidious effort is basically held together by a teenager in Chile

2024-12-15T13:16:22Z < kpm> prahou: hmmm...

2024-12-15T13:16:49Z < kpm> prahou: invidious is great! it doesn't play videos for me though idk why

2024-12-15T13:16:50Z < prahou> kpm: probably not, I'd need an rss feed to scrape

2024-12-15T13:17:09Z < prahou> kpm: because google is an evil entity

2024-12-15T13:17:10Z < kpm> prahou: yeah sorry i don't have that

2024-12-15T13:17:20Z < prahou> no worries, I'll still bookmark your cute page

2024-12-15T13:17:28Z < kpm> thanks :3

2024-12-15T13:17:59Z < kpm> i use invidious API through some elisp bullshit to search for channels/videos tho

2024-12-15T13:18:07Z < kpm> and it works suprisingly well

2024-12-15T13:18:31Z < prahou> invidious is still good for searching for videos and finding rss feeds of channels

2024-12-15T13:18:49Z < prahou> https://automa.triapul.cz/invidious-to-newsboat/

2024-12-15T13:19:20Z < kpm> i do something like this too

2024-12-15T13:19:37Z < prahou> otherwise you can find the original youtube atom feed through this for example https://fuyt.lab8.cz/?s=accursed+farms&o=relevance

2024-12-15T13:20:18Z < kpm> it's nice of google corp that they still host rss feeds of youtube channels

2024-12-15T13:20:32Z < prahou> I have a feeling they just forgot they do that

2024-12-15T13:20:55Z < kpm> thats probably the case

2024-12-15T13:20:56Z < redruM> prahou: Why not add a profile to auto sharpen when using lower res?

2024-12-15T13:20:57Z < redruM> [low-res-sharpen]

2024-12-15T13:20:57Z < redruM> profile-cond=width<=960 or height<=540

2024-12-15T13:20:57Z < redruM> sharpen=3

2024-12-15T13:21:49Z < prahou> is that a yt-dlp thing or a mpv thing

2024-12-15T13:21:57Z < redruM> mpv

2024-12-15T13:22:04Z < prahou> cool, didn't know that

2024-12-15T13:22:09Z < prahou> but to answer your question

2024-12-15T13:22:09Z < redruM> ;)

2024-12-15T13:22:20Z < prahou> because my monitor is 1376xwhatever

2024-12-15T13:22:24Z < prahou> so it's hardly noticable

2024-12-15T13:23:14Z < redruM> Same here, at 1366x768, it sharpens just enough though.

2024-12-15T13:25:14Z < prahou> as a machine asketic, I do not like wasting bandwidth

2024-12-15T13:26:07Z < redruM> It won't add to bandwidth, it'll just slightly sharpen edges.

2024-12-15T13:26:21Z < prahou> yeah, I know :)

2024-12-15T13:26:28Z < redruM> XD

2024-12-15T13:26:38Z < prahou> I was just explaining to no one why I use the 420p thingy

2024-12-15T13:47:30Z < redruM> Newsboat with mpv is quite handy with youtube subs and podcasts.

2024-12-15T13:48:31Z < prahou> it is

2024-12-15T13:49:07Z < prahou> you can also use macros to switch the "browser" without having to open a separate newsboat with a different config

2024-12-15T13:51:19Z < prahou> this makes sense if you mix your newsboat feed with blogs and video feeds, so you can choose whether to open the item in mpv or links2(or whatever)

2024-12-15T13:51:25Z < redruM> I have an external script for that depending on file type and domains.

2024-12-15T13:51:53Z < prahou> makes sense you would :)

2024-12-15T13:52:35Z < prahou> here's the tidbit from my .newsboat/config

2024-12-15T13:52:38Z < prahou> macro f set browser "feh %u"

2024-12-15T13:52:38Z < prahou> macro m set browser "mpv %u"

2024-12-15T13:52:39Z < prahou> macro l set browser "links -g %u"

2024-12-15T13:53:10Z < prahou> your method is pretty clever though

2024-12-15T13:54:06Z < redruM> prahou: Yeah, learned form this random guy. [low-res-sharpen]

2024-12-15T13:54:06Z < redruM> profile-cond=width<=960 or height<=540

2024-12-15T13:54:06Z < redruM> sharpen=3

2024-12-15T13:54:14Z < redruM> Ugh.

2024-12-15T13:54:17Z < redruM> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LukeSmithxyz/voidrice/master/.local/bin/linkhandler

2024-12-15T13:54:38Z < prahou> cheers

2024-12-15T14:09:01Z < cow_2001> luke smith is still there

2024-12-15T14:09:33Z < prahou> where

2024-12-15T14:09:54Z < prahou> mount Athos maybe

2024-12-15T14:10:48Z < cow_2001> the hell?!

2024-12-15T14:10:54Z < cow_2001> latest commit is 2 months ago?

2024-12-15T14:10:54Z <@Reid> isn't mount athos, like, super important for religious nuts?

2024-12-15T14:11:00Z < cow_2001> i thought he went off the grid

2024-12-15T14:12:03Z < prahou> Reid: it's the most fanciest eastern orthodox monastery

2024-12-15T14:13:49Z < cow_2001> athos

2024-12-15T14:14:01Z < cow_2001> holy hell wow

2024-12-15T14:14:12Z < cow_2001> no.

2024-12-15T14:14:16Z < cow_2001> do not want to live there

2024-12-15T14:14:22Z < cow_2001> looks rickety

2024-12-15T14:14:28Z < cow_2001> would visit

2024-12-15T14:14:35Z < prahou> I think it even has a sort of a special... how to put it...

2024-12-15T14:14:38Z < prahou> it's basically a city state

2024-12-15T14:15:12Z < cow_2001> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monastic_community_of_Mount_Athos

2024-12-15T14:15:44Z < cow_2001> do they have any weapons?

2024-12-15T14:15:50Z < cow_2001> they should

2024-12-15T14:16:05Z < prahou> dunno, but they make a zine

2024-12-15T14:16:13Z < prahou> deathtotheworld.com

2024-12-15T14:16:52Z < cow_2001> lies!

2024-12-15T14:17:19Z < cow_2001> oh, it was a joke

2024-12-15T14:17:26Z < cow_2001> wait, it is real!?

2024-12-15T14:18:14Z < cow_2001> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptP0OR-e7rI

2024-12-15T14:21:25Z < prahou> yes, it is real

2024-12-15T14:22:56Z < prahou> https://archive.org/details/dttw-zine04

2024-12-15T14:49:03Z < prahou> upgrading freebsd

2024-12-15T14:49:08Z < prahou> i heard some nightmare stories

2024-12-15T14:49:13Z < prahou> wish me luck

2024-12-15T15:04:39Z < prahou> nvm, nothing bad happened

2024-12-15T15:28:17Z < branon> just realized https://analognowhere.com/_/ghloml/ bears a striking resemblance to the Lena image

2024-12-15T15:28:34Z < branon> I knew I had seen that visage somewhere else before

2024-12-15T15:30:19Z < prahou> branon: that is what it is! it was all Reid's idea

2024-12-15T15:30:43Z < branon> ah, i see he's a man of culture as well

2024-12-15T15:32:02Z < prahou> yes yes, it was a cultured moment, we discussed all the finer points of softcore pornography

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2024-12-15T18:18:14Z < redruM> cow_2001: Nice lyrics and visuals.

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2024-12-15T18:20:57Z < cow_2001> redruM: :>

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2024-12-15T18:21:49Z < redruM> cow_2001: (;,;)

2024-12-15T18:22:08Z < cow_2001> the crow?

2024-12-15T18:22:21Z < redruM> No, Cthulhu.

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2024-12-15T18:23:01Z < thedaemon> hi

2024-12-15T18:23:17Z < Wesker> mornin

2024-12-15T18:23:32Z < redruM> Hoooowdy Ho!

2024-12-15T18:23:48Z < thedaemon> What's up my fellow peoples

2024-12-15T18:24:01Z < thedaemon> like the current topic

2024-12-15T18:24:16Z < redruM> Same ol' same ol', what's up with you, thedaemon?

2024-12-15T18:25:06Z < thedaemon> found a nice console music app, so listening to music while I load up some cannabis before I go to the grocery store to buy some things.

2024-12-15T18:25:39Z < redruM> You grab the munchies after blazing one?

2024-12-15T18:25:49Z < cow_2001> redruM: it looks like a sad clown with a long nose

2024-12-15T18:26:09Z < redruM> Tentacles...

2024-12-15T18:26:10Z < thedaemon> Na, I just had Waffle House, I'm getting some items I need.

2024-12-15T18:26:13Z < cow_2001> (:,,,,,,,:)

2024-12-15T18:26:17Z < cow_2001> this is cthulhu

2024-12-15T18:26:27Z < Wesker> cow that is pretty accurate

2024-12-15T18:26:31Z < cow_2001> (.: ,,,,,,, :.)

2024-12-15T18:26:32Z < thedaemon> I see it now, nice.

2024-12-15T18:26:38Z < redruM> cow_2001: Ugh, fiiiiiiiiiiine.

2024-12-15T18:26:38Z < cow_2001> it has three eyes on each side

2024-12-15T18:26:42Z < cow_2001> redruM: ;p

2024-12-15T18:27:21Z < redruM> thedaemon: Which app?

2024-12-15T18:31:09Z < prahou> ultraviolence: https://analognowhere.com/_/aearec

2024-12-15T18:31:22Z < thedaemon> kew https://github.com/ravachol/kew

2024-12-15T18:31:32Z < matto> good evening

2024-12-15T18:31:32Z < thedaemon> bbl

2024-12-15T18:31:40Z < Wesker> matto: hello

2024-12-15T18:31:50Z < matto> hi!

2024-12-15T18:32:15Z < redruM> prahou: Be very very quiet, I'm hunting rabbits.

2024-12-15T18:33:18Z < cow_2001> ...

2024-12-15T18:33:20Z < cow_2001> ...

2024-12-15T18:33:24Z < cow_2001> redruM: ...

2024-12-15T18:33:46Z < redruM> thedaemon: Nice, you may also enjoy https://github.com/yne/dzr

2024-12-15T18:35:55Z < Wesker> thedaemon: the screenshot of that is pretty

2024-12-15T18:38:02Z < matto> the album cover of dark side of the moon is always good

2024-12-15T18:38:21Z < redruM> Wesker: What the old CLI gui? https://0x0.st/XFx-.png

2024-12-15T18:38:32Z < cow_2001> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpXihAVVwc

2024-12-15T18:39:01Z < Wesker> redruM: no sorry, I'm referring the the kew repo

2024-12-15T18:39:17Z < redruM> matto: Love the prism design.

2024-12-15T18:39:27Z < redruM> Wesker: Ah!

2024-12-15T18:41:59Z <@Reid> prahou: wait what was my idea?

2024-12-15T18:42:18Z <@Reid> oh, the lena image

2024-12-15T18:42:23Z <@Reid> actually, how did we even get to that one?

2024-12-15T18:43:04Z < prahou> Reid: something about porn, I don't remember

2024-12-15T18:43:18Z <@Reid> nah, the porn talk came after

2024-12-15T18:43:22Z <@Reid> I think

2024-12-15T18:43:27Z <@Reid> I'll have to check the logs

2024-12-15T18:43:34Z < ghane> something it not being allowed in papers iirc

2024-12-15T18:43:35Z < prahou> I think we were talking about mata maid models

2024-12-15T18:44:00Z < matto> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpXihAVVwc <-- crazy stuff there ;)

2024-12-15T18:44:26Z <@Reid> ghane: I don't think that's how it started, tho

2024-12-15T18:45:51Z <@Reid> oh, prahou was talking about an only fans with mata maid porn

2024-12-15T18:47:35Z <@Reid> nvm I started it, then I went "go remake the lena pic with a mata maid"

2024-12-15T18:47:39Z < ghane> But it all started with someone bringing the November '72 issue of Playboy into the SIPI lab sometime around summer of 1973 ;-)

2024-12-15T18:48:05Z <@Reid> yes, that's the moment we entered this timeline

2024-12-15T18:48:30Z < cow_2001> sabine hossenfelder is great

2024-12-15T18:48:32Z < cow_2001> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYwmxZBjZQ

2024-12-15T18:49:51Z < cow_2001> except that she is now a pen salesman

2024-12-15T18:58:11Z < matto> indeed, that was a bit disappointing, at the end

2024-12-15T19:06:49Z < thedaemon> kew is written in C, so > others

2024-12-15T19:11:10Z <@Reid> what's kew?

2024-12-15T19:11:55Z < thedaemon> https://github.com/ravachol/kew audio player console style

2024-12-15T19:12:04Z <@Reid> oh right

2024-12-15T19:12:12Z <@Reid> I saw some posting about this on fedi (prob from you)

2024-12-15T19:15:33Z <@Reid> I will say this, tho

2024-12-15T19:15:46Z <@Reid> the recommendation to do -Syu $deps on Arch is utter bullshit

2024-12-15T19:17:30Z < thedaemon> you use arch btw?

2024-12-15T19:17:56Z < thedaemon> yeah I post of fedi when I find good software.

2024-12-15T19:18:11Z < thedaemon> gotta get the word out on the fedi-streets.

2024-12-15T19:18:24Z < thedaemon> If you aren't streets ahead, you are streets behind!

2024-12-15T19:18:52Z <@Reid> I use Arch, yes

2024-12-15T19:19:16Z < ghane> s/yes/btw/

2024-12-15T19:19:19Z < ghane> ;-)

2024-12-15T19:21:34Z < matto> :)

2024-12-15T19:22:01Z <@Reid> =]

2024-12-15T19:30:59Z < redruM> thedaemon: This may help you stay ahead, bro. https://terminaltrove.com/list/

2024-12-15T19:33:45Z < prahou> Wesker: I so desperately wished Woody Harrelson would win

2024-12-15T19:34:16Z < prahou> But there is still time.

2024-12-15T19:36:07Z <-- thedaemon (~thedaemon@user/thedaemon) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

2024-12-15T19:36:45Z --> thedaemon (~thedaemon@user/thedaemon) has joined #unix_surrealism

2024-12-15T19:46:32Z < redruM> prahou: Seen this yet? https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=Ho5iOnGcWas

2024-12-15T19:46:44Z < redruM> *NSFW* BTW

2024-12-15T19:47:17Z < prahou> havent

2024-12-15T19:47:21Z < prahou> will save for later

2024-12-15T19:56:41Z < prahou> Meth?!!

2024-12-15T19:57:00Z < redruM> Narrating?

2024-12-15T19:57:43Z < prahou> Yeah!

2024-12-15T19:58:14Z < redruM> Yep.

2024-12-15T20:05:02Z <@Reid> maybe it's just me, but kew feels a lil slow

2024-12-15T20:05:06Z < prahou> redruM: that was surprisingly good. cheesy in a good way

2024-12-15T20:06:26Z < prahou> thanks

2024-12-15T20:09:49Z < redruM> Reid: Not snappy for a C program?

2024-12-15T20:10:15Z < redruM> prahou: Yeah, I think the fucked up in the end though.

2024-12-15T20:10:22Z < redruM> s/the/they/

2024-12-15T20:10:24Z < thedaemon> Reid: using different file formats in kew?

2024-12-15T20:10:26Z <@Reid> like, it feels like it's running at 20fps or something

2024-12-15T20:10:41Z < prahou> well, the intro just wanted me to smoke weed and have a lot of sex

2024-12-15T20:10:44Z <@Reid> the playback is fine, it's the UI that feels very laggy

2024-12-15T20:10:46Z < redruM> Reid: Which terminal are you using?

2024-12-15T20:10:50Z <@Reid> kitty

2024-12-15T20:10:51Z < thedaemon> prahou: what's wrong with that.

2024-12-15T20:11:02Z < prahou> redruM: the cop bit was hilariously cringé

2024-12-15T20:11:03Z < redruM> Reid: Hmm, should work from GPU.

2024-12-15T20:11:34Z < redruM> prahou: Yeah, the whole telepathy thing, but had some funny moments, like Martha Stewart. XD

2024-12-15T20:11:43Z <@Reid> actually no, feels more like 20 frames

2024-12-15T20:11:47Z < prahou> I'm gonna go take a look at this kew thing you guys are talking about

2024-12-15T20:11:53Z <@Reid> *15

2024-12-15T20:11:58Z <@Reid> numbers hard

2024-12-15T20:12:25Z < thedaemon> maph hard

2024-12-15T20:12:47Z < prahou> very cool

2024-12-15T20:12:48Z <@Reid> like, it looks nice with the colours and album art and all

2024-12-15T20:12:51Z < prahou> very laggy

2024-12-15T20:13:21Z <@Reid> but it feels very laggy, and when most of my music doesn't even have album art to save space, there's little reason for me to use this over mpd

2024-12-15T20:14:17Z < prahou> https://img.triapul.cz/ejpmyn.jpg

2024-12-15T20:15:13Z <@Reid> sixels?

2024-12-15T20:15:26Z < prahou> I suppose so

2024-12-15T20:15:35Z < prahou> it did have `chafa' as a dependency

2024-12-15T20:15:39Z <@Reid> in my case it renders in 4K Ultra HD(TM)

2024-12-15T20:15:48Z <@Reid> wait

2024-12-15T20:15:58Z <@Reid> why tf is chafa not optional?

2024-12-15T20:16:15Z <@Reid> I don't think it even gets used on Kitty

2024-12-15T20:16:18Z < prahou> because whoever made the package for freebsd made it so?

2024-12-15T20:16:20Z < prahou> I don't know

2024-12-15T20:17:08Z < grimmware> evening

2024-12-15T20:17:15Z <@Reid> prahou: it doesn't even build without chafa

2024-12-15T20:17:22Z <@Reid> I for one built it from sauce

2024-12-15T20:17:38Z < prahou> yes, third level of kierkegaard's computing

2024-12-15T20:18:03Z <@Reid> also, f6 for help?

2024-12-15T20:18:07Z <@Reid> isn't help usually on f1?

2024-12-15T20:18:16Z < prahou> i dunno I already closed it

2024-12-15T20:18:32Z < prahou> this is too much bloat for my blood

2024-12-15T20:18:36Z < thedaemon> it has ascii option for the cover art

2024-12-15T20:18:58Z < thedaemon> enjoy the bloat

2024-12-15T20:19:20Z < prahou> no

2024-12-15T20:19:24Z <@Reid> tbh the fact I have to keep it running is reason enough for me to not use it

2024-12-15T20:19:28Z < thedaemon> embrace

2024-12-15T20:19:43Z < thedaemon> that doesn't make any sense Reid.

2024-12-15T20:19:50Z <@Reid> like

2024-12-15T20:19:55Z <@Reid> keep it running in a terminal

2024-12-15T20:20:10Z < thedaemon> it's a terminal music player

2024-12-15T20:20:20Z <@Reid> with mpd I can launch a terminal, do the thing I need in the mpd client, then close it and it keeps playing

2024-12-15T20:20:22Z < thedaemon> musikcube is another

2024-12-15T20:20:29Z < thedaemon> that's a daemon

2024-12-15T20:20:36Z < thedaemon> like me

2024-12-15T20:20:40Z < thedaemon> it runs in the background

2024-12-15T20:20:46Z <@Reid> I knoowwwwwwwww

2024-12-15T20:20:49Z < thedaemon> ;)

2024-12-15T20:20:54Z < thedaemon> I'm giving you a hard time.

2024-12-15T20:21:00Z <@Reid> I've been using unixes for years now, I already know how it works

2024-12-15T20:21:20Z < thedaemon> I have no clue, I just stab my finger at the keyboard and it makes sounds and pretty pictures

2024-12-15T20:21:21Z <@Reid> I just can't be asked to keep a window around in some desktop I never go to just for music when mpd works with no windows

2024-12-15T20:21:51Z < prahou> or just used mpd like a sane person

2024-12-15T20:21:56Z < thedaemon> I would hate to have music coming out of my computer but have no interface to turn it off

2024-12-15T20:22:02Z <@Reid> prahou: that's what I use

2024-12-15T20:22:05Z < thedaemon> sounds like a way to drive me mad

2024-12-15T20:22:08Z < prahou> Reid: I figured <3

2024-12-15T20:22:14Z <@Reid> rn with ncmpcpp but I might look into other clients

2024-12-15T20:22:23Z < prahou> ncmpcpp is bloat

2024-12-15T20:22:25Z < thedaemon> sounds like bloat to me

2024-12-15T20:22:26Z <@Reid> what annoys me with ncmpcpp: no vim bindings :(

2024-12-15T20:22:36Z < prahou> ncmpc is liter

2024-12-15T20:22:38Z * thedaemon tips his Fedora hat.

2024-12-15T20:22:59Z < Wesker> prahou: Woody Harrelson is always the underdog

2024-12-15T20:23:10Z <@Reid> ok ncmpc can do vim bindings

2024-12-15T20:23:12Z <@Reid> I'm sold

2024-12-15T20:23:14Z < prahou> Wesker: but it'll be very fitting for qrs' content to win

2024-12-15T20:23:21Z < prahou> Reid: you're welcome

2024-12-15T20:23:34Z < thedaemon> good thing there is more than 1 options for software

2024-12-15T20:23:45Z <@Reid> actually been meaning to try it since I've seen the dependencies trying to install ncmpcpp in Termux

2024-12-15T20:23:54Z * thedaemon opens up VLC to play an mp3

2024-12-15T20:24:01Z < prahou> Reid: use the -C for extra kierkegaard's level 3 of computing

2024-12-15T20:24:02Z * thedaemon opens up wine VLC*

2024-12-15T20:24:09Z < prahou> thedaemon: disgusting

2024-12-15T20:24:10Z <@Reid> I actually used vlc for music for a while

2024-12-15T20:24:19Z < prahou> actually vlc has a pretty good TUI

2024-12-15T20:24:30Z <@Reid> there's a tui vlc?

2024-12-15T20:24:31Z < Wesker> I use VLC on my Android-based DAP

2024-12-15T20:24:59Z < prahou> Reid: yeah! I found out about it very recently

2024-12-15T20:25:20Z < prahou> ... I mean I saw a screenshot on fedi

2024-12-15T20:25:22Z <@Reid> nvlc?

2024-12-15T20:25:24Z < prahou> I'm not downloading vlc to test it now

2024-12-15T20:25:26Z <@Reid> zamn

2024-12-15T20:25:26Z < prahou> maybe

2024-12-15T20:25:28Z <@Reid> didn't know about it

2024-12-15T20:25:46Z <@Reid> I just did `pacman -Ql vlc | grep bin` and nvlc looked like the most likely for a TUI

2024-12-15T20:25:50Z <@Reid> since ncurses and all that

2024-12-15T20:26:41Z < prahou> ye

2024-12-15T20:26:57Z < redruM> Do you still need VLC to use it?

2024-12-15T20:27:05Z < Wesker> I revisited Mother Love Bone's 1990 album `Apple` today. Still slaps.

2024-12-15T20:27:56Z <@Reid> redruM: on Arch at least there's a single package for the whole thing

2024-12-15T20:28:10Z <@Reid> maybe there's a way to build it with just nvlc and cvlc, tho

2024-12-15T20:28:46Z <@Reid> btw

2024-12-15T20:29:07Z < prahou> wat

2024-12-15T20:29:14Z <@Reid> anyone know why mpd keeps kinda not playing if I try to play a new thing without first pausing/stopping?

2024-12-15T20:29:19Z * redruM still prefers mpv.

2024-12-15T20:29:25Z <@Reid> like if I send a next command

2024-12-15T20:29:33Z < prahou> Reid: this bug report kinda sucks

2024-12-15T20:29:34Z < Wesker> redruM: same

2024-12-15T20:29:42Z <@Reid> prahou: look, Idk how to explain it

2024-12-15T20:29:49Z < prahou> I figured :D I'm just teasing

2024-12-15T20:29:50Z <@Reid> say, a song is playing

2024-12-15T20:29:50Z < prahou> I wanna help

2024-12-15T20:29:52Z < Wesker> mpv is so dang extendable

2024-12-15T20:29:59Z < prahou> song is playing, mh

2024-12-15T20:30:12Z <@Reid> I send a next command with mpc or ncmpc or ncmpcpp or trough the mpd-mpris bridge, it's all the same

2024-12-15T20:30:22Z <@Reid> and mpd does go to the next song but no audio is playing

2024-12-15T20:30:30Z < kpm> i don't value privacy in that regard and just use spotify-tui with spotifyd

2024-12-15T20:30:35Z < prahou> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

2024-12-15T20:30:37Z <@Reid> unless I first pause or stop, then the next song plays fine

2024-12-15T20:30:45Z < redruM> Wesker: Tell me about it, you can just add your own features with LUA scriptin.

2024-12-15T20:30:45Z < prahou> I think there might be a toggle for autoplay

2024-12-15T20:30:55Z < redruM> s/scriptin/scripting/

2024-12-15T20:31:13Z < prahou> wait

2024-12-15T20:31:15Z < Wesker> redruM: once I started dabbling with the scripting, it was a game changer

2024-12-15T20:31:17Z <@Reid> redruM: also I'mma be real, what turned me away from mpv is the fact it has a hard dependency on fucking javascript

2024-12-15T20:31:22Z < prahou> Reid: so if you stop/pause, then do `mpc next' it autoplays?

2024-12-15T20:31:27Z <@Reid> I don't trust anything with JavaScript to not shit itself

2024-12-15T20:31:36Z <@Reid> prahou: define autoplay

2024-12-15T20:31:47Z < prahou> music comes out of the box

2024-12-15T20:31:50Z <@Reid> yes

2024-12-15T20:31:59Z <@Reid> but it's not consistent for when it doesn't work

2024-12-15T20:32:00Z < prahou> but if music is playing and you do `mpc next' it stops?

2024-12-15T20:32:07Z <@Reid> sometimes I keep sending next commands and it works fine

2024-12-15T20:32:11Z <@Reid> prahou: yep

2024-12-15T20:32:13Z < redruM> Reid: What do you currently use for videos?

2024-12-15T20:32:13Z < prahou> shit's broken bro

2024-12-15T20:32:21Z <@Reid> redruM: cvlc

2024-12-15T20:32:32Z < redruM> I see.

2024-12-15T20:32:41Z <@Reid> prahou: Idk what's going on, maybe something in my config since it didn't happen when I let Cantata manage MPD for me

2024-12-15T20:32:54Z < prahou> Reid: but I have a hack that might help

2024-12-15T20:33:09Z <@Reid> just bind the command combo to the keys?

2024-12-15T20:33:33Z <@Reid> bindsym $shortcut mpc stop && mpc next

2024-12-15T20:33:46Z < prahou> Reid: http://okturing.com/src/22073/body

2024-12-15T20:33:48Z < prahou> I guess nevermind

2024-12-15T20:34:17Z < prahou> nevermind the dmenu bit

2024-12-15T20:34:53Z < redruM> Wesker: Just added this the other day when using subs, ' Ctrl+s run "/bin/bash" "-c" "echo \"${sub-text}\" | tr '\n' ' ' | xclip -sel c"; show-text "Subtitle copied to clipboard" '

2024-12-15T20:34:55Z < prahou> i just know that this will start playing a selected song no matter whether mpd is stopped, paused or playing something

2024-12-15T20:35:28Z < thedaemon> audio/zuke

2024-12-15T20:35:35Z < prahou> Reid: hypothetically maybe just doing $ mpc next; mpc play

2024-12-15T20:35:37Z < prahou> would be enough

2024-12-15T20:35:48Z < thedaemon> https://man.9front.org/1/zuke

2024-12-15T20:36:11Z <@Reid> prahou: I mean, I already have the reflex to just do that whenever I switch songs from the keyboard, lol

2024-12-15T20:36:11Z < thedaemon> zuke is my other audio app

2024-12-15T20:36:14Z < thedaemon> 9front only

2024-12-15T20:36:17Z <@Reid> but I'd rather fix it properly

2024-12-15T20:36:18Z < thedaemon> sigrid made it

2024-12-15T20:36:34Z < cow_2001> the amazing digital circus feels too american :|

2024-12-15T20:37:12Z < prahou> Reid: my super wild guess it's an issue with the audio server

2024-12-15T20:37:13Z < Wesker> prahou: when you said "music comes out of the box" it reminded me of the Gristleism

2024-12-15T20:37:34Z < prahou> TIL

2024-12-15T20:37:57Z < Wesker> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFxtTStQt38

2024-12-15T20:38:05Z <@Reid> prahou: but then why would it work fine when I let cantata manage it?

2024-12-15T20:38:14Z < prahou> who's cantata

2024-12-15T20:38:16Z <@Reid> my bet is on something wrong in my mpd config

2024-12-15T20:38:28Z < prahou> Reid: show mpd config

2024-12-15T20:38:31Z < prahou> okturing.com

2024-12-15T20:38:46Z <@Reid> cantata is an mpd client that can optionally manage mpd for you to emulate a regular music player without the daemon stuff

2024-12-15T20:38:54Z < prahou> so bloat stuff

2024-12-15T20:38:57Z < prahou> show the config bro

2024-12-15T20:39:17Z < prahou> Wesker: wtf is this

2024-12-15T20:39:34Z < Wesker> prahou: Throbbing Gristle made a Buddha Box

2024-12-15T20:39:34Z < prahou> pocket numbers station?

2024-12-15T20:39:43Z <@Reid> I need to shoot someone at Mozilla

2024-12-15T20:39:57Z < prahou> we don't actually support shooting people here

2024-12-15T20:40:09Z < prahou> only semi-sentient and non-sentient beings and machines

2024-12-15T20:40:18Z < prahou> and objects, I guess

2024-12-15T20:40:25Z <@Reid> http://okturing.com/src/22074/body

2024-12-15T20:40:41Z < prahou> jesus fuck

2024-12-15T20:40:50Z < matto> unless we shoot with a camara. of course

2024-12-15T20:40:56Z <@Reid> I took the default and edited it -~-

2024-12-15T20:41:05Z < prahou> I get it, I'll just remove every line starting with # :D

2024-12-15T20:41:07Z < prahou> and compare it with mine

2024-12-15T20:41:33Z <@Reid> I should've cleaned it before sendig

2024-12-15T20:41:44Z < prahou> is cool, am a wizard

2024-12-15T20:41:50Z < prahou> curl -s http://okturing.com/src/22074/body | grep -E "^#" -v

2024-12-15T20:42:34Z <@Reid> btw '#' also works

2024-12-15T20:42:48Z <@Reid> since the contents of '' don't get evaled

2024-12-15T20:42:50Z < prahou> well, you might wanna add `audio_output {}'

2024-12-15T20:43:25Z < prahou> http://okturing.com/src/22075/body

2024-12-15T20:43:27Z < prahou> this is mine

2024-12-15T20:44:10Z < prahou> not sure what plugin "curl" does, I guess it's for fetchin lyrics or someshit

2024-12-15T20:45:32Z < prahou> Reid: my guess it's getting confused, so if you define the proper audio_output, it might fix itself m a g i c a l l y

2024-12-15T20:47:00Z < prahou> also, one more thing, do you run mpd manually or as a service?

2024-12-15T20:47:25Z <@Reid> khasn't fixed it

2024-12-15T20:47:36Z <@Reid> prahou: I'm using the systemd service that ships with mpd

2024-12-15T20:47:42Z <@Reid> yes, I know, systemd cringe

2024-12-15T20:47:49Z < prahou> no, but try to stop the service

2024-12-15T20:47:57Z < prahou> and just run `$ mpd'

2024-12-15T20:47:59Z < Wesker> I enjoy systemd

2024-12-15T20:48:18Z < prahou> Wesker: that's allowed

2024-12-15T20:49:22Z <@Reid> ughh, it keeps complaining the address is in use

2024-12-15T20:49:45Z <@Reid> there's nothing running on 6600 thooooo

2024-12-15T20:49:57Z * prahou shrugs

2024-12-15T20:50:04Z < prahou> maybe the systemd service has it reserved or someshit

2024-12-15T20:50:06Z <@Reid> only bound port on my system is 9050 so why tf is it complaining about the port being taken?

2024-12-15T20:50:21Z <@Reid> prahou: it's a user service and I stopped it

2024-12-15T20:50:30Z <@Reid> if it was a system service, maybe

2024-12-15T20:50:40Z < cow_2001> aaaaa

2024-12-15T20:50:43Z < prahou> idk what that means, I don't know systemd whatsover

2024-12-15T20:51:07Z <@Reid> well something's clearly still running

2024-12-15T20:51:15Z <@Reid> mpc can still find a running server somehow

2024-12-15T20:51:27Z < prahou> sounds like you might have found the issue

2024-12-15T20:51:30Z < prahou> maybe there's more than one mpd

2024-12-15T20:51:38Z < prahou> and they fight over who's gonna play the song

2024-12-15T20:52:03Z <@Reid> prahou: systemd does both system services (running as root or dedicated service users), and user services, running as regular users, the latter being meant for things like audio servers, notification daemons etc

2024-12-15T20:52:12Z < cow_2001> hot models wearing random nerd shirts is so absurd https://www.redbubble.com/i/long-sleeve-t-shirt/it-works-on-my-machine-unix_surrealism-by-analognowhere/162116444.4XKTZ

2024-12-15T20:52:24Z <@Reid> uhhh

2024-12-15T20:52:28Z <@Reid> nope, there are 3 mpds

2024-12-15T20:52:30Z <@Reid> somehow

2024-12-15T20:52:51Z < prahou> dunno if you want that

2024-12-15T20:52:57Z <@Reid> nvm

2024-12-15T20:53:07Z < prahou> cow_2001: it is pretty funny

2024-12-15T20:53:10Z <@Reid> looks like those were zombie daemons from me trying to launch it without a service

2024-12-15T20:53:25Z < prahou> it's getting worse by the minute

2024-12-15T20:53:33Z < cow_2001> prahou: it can be worse. it can be something like three wolves howling at the moon

2024-12-15T20:54:18Z < Wesker> Imagine it. Now imagine it getting worse.

2024-12-15T20:54:38Z < cow_2001> https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/I-Have-Autism-Word-Art-by-snazzyseagull/143390734.IJ6L0

2024-12-15T20:55:02Z < dok> howdy ?

2024-12-15T20:55:06Z < prahou> you know how they often talk about plus sized models in fashion

2024-12-15T20:55:12Z < prahou> they never really talk about males

2024-12-15T20:55:15Z < Wesker> dok: hello

2024-12-15T20:55:25Z < prahou> hi dok , son of Paul Eluard

2024-12-15T20:55:26Z < cow_2001> i bet some of these are specifically made just so that there would be pictures of hot models wearing bad taste stuff like "i have autism"

2024-12-15T20:55:31Z < dok> currently trying to saw a chalkbag

2024-12-15T20:55:36Z < dok> sew

2024-12-15T20:55:41Z < cow_2001> prahou: huh

2024-12-15T20:55:47Z < prahou> cow_2001: huh?

2024-12-15T20:56:10Z < cow_2001> prahou: so you are noticing things

2024-12-15T20:56:18Z < prahou> what things

2024-12-15T20:56:39Z < prahou> I'm eating pistachios

2024-12-15T20:57:26Z * @Reid steals prahou's pistachios

2024-12-15T20:57:35Z < dok> fuck computers

2024-12-15T20:57:44Z < prahou> ditto

2024-12-15T20:58:00Z < cow_2001> prahou: it is term made to mock people who notice the hypocrisies of society

2024-12-15T20:58:02Z < thedaemon> I prefer to say 'I am autistic'

2024-12-15T20:58:04Z <@Reid> you say that but all I can picture is a jailbroken matamaid

2024-12-15T20:58:12Z < dok> it feels good to do crafts with my hands

2024-12-15T20:58:14Z < thedaemon> I don't have a disease. I am just different brained that normies

2024-12-15T20:58:16Z < cow_2001> i'm an autist

2024-12-15T20:58:23Z < cow_2001> i have autism

2024-12-15T20:58:28Z < prahou> cow_2001: that's also allowed

2024-12-15T20:58:34Z < Wesker> I'm a neuromancer

2024-12-15T20:58:36Z < cow_2001> prahou: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-nooticer

2024-12-15T20:59:14Z < prahou> Wesker: what color on the lgbt flag is that?

2024-12-15T20:59:36Z < thedaemon> https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/Autistic-Artistic-by-Swish-Designs/140322402.IJ6L0.XYZ

2024-12-15T20:59:43Z < Wesker> prahou: the only flags I recognize start with - or --

2024-12-15T21:00:15Z < prahou> Wesker: liar

2024-12-15T21:00:40Z < prahou> Wesker: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/14943947

2024-12-15T21:01:14Z < Wesker> oh well, that one's okay

2024-12-15T21:01:36Z < prahou> i do not remember the context

2024-12-15T21:01:38Z < prahou> but I am pretty sure the `doctor' in the title was you

2024-12-15T21:01:59Z < kpm> https://www.jakubzasada.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/odmiany-kawek.jpg

2024-12-15T21:02:32Z < Wesker> I posted in another community about defederating with Threads, and everyone was like, "no, I like evil corporations"

2024-12-15T21:02:43Z < Wesker> and it got downvoted into oblivion

2024-12-15T21:02:43Z < prahou> oh right

2024-12-15T21:02:59Z < prahou> kpm: surrealism

2024-12-15T21:03:04Z < cow_2001> from the urban dictionary: The Noticing, also spelled Noseticing, is a movement. It is the awakening to the truth. It is the ultimate red pill. The bottom of the rabbit hole. The unplugging from the matrix. The realization, the revelation, the noticing that every single time, that it is those who cannot be named that are responsible or behind every bad company, movement and organization.

2024-12-15T21:03:04Z < cow_2001> The Noticing is when you have special pattern recognition aka "noticing" abilities. When you can spot the common denominator in all world events and agendas. The Noticing has been largely spurred on by the Streisand Effect. And when you become aware of The Noticing, share your finding with the #thenociting so others can see the truth and help to notice even further. Gary: Oi Tone, ever

2024-12-15T21:03:04Z < cow_2001> notice when you see someone or a company pushing the degeneracy agendas and you go smash their wiki early life, that there is always a certain similarity/pattern? Tone: yeah bro, every single time. #thenoticing Gary: oy vey, The Noticing.

2024-12-15T21:04:05Z < prahou> interrrresting

2024-12-15T21:04:46Z <@Reid> Wesker: everybody anti-corporate gangsta till it comes time to acknowledge the tollerance paradox applies to software and tollerating corporate bullshit just results in it slowly taking over till there's no room left for free software

2024-12-15T21:05:20Z < prahou> pay the FOSS TROLL TOLL

2024-12-15T21:05:37Z < Wesker> Reid: IIRC the common argument was "I don't want to block out Threads users, because they aren't the enemy" and it's like... yeah... well...

2024-12-15T21:06:13Z <@Reid> they're not the enemy, they're useful idiots who, willingly or not, are acting in service to the enemy

2024-12-15T21:06:17Z < Wesker> Encouraging poor choices isn't exactly the definition of empathy

2024-12-15T21:06:31Z < cow_2001> :|

2024-12-15T21:07:58Z < cow_2001> prahou: it is so good :(

2024-12-15T21:09:11Z < prahou> I must now depart

2024-12-15T21:09:28Z < prahou> try to keep the racism to a minimum ok?

2024-12-15T21:09:45Z < cow_2001> good night

2024-12-15T21:10:20Z < prahou> good night

2024-12-15T21:10:22Z < cow_2001> Reid: we can be as racist as you want to be once prahou is asleep

2024-12-15T21:10:53Z < prahou> Reid: if I wake up and see more than 3 n words, we're gonna have a long talk

2024-12-15T21:10:57Z <@Reid> everyone who's racist on my watch gets a /ban

2024-12-15T21:11:25Z < cow_2001> how about a long walk?

2024-12-15T21:11:45Z < Wesker> prahou: bye

2024-12-15T21:11:50Z < cow_2001> Reid: that is a good level of racism

2024-12-15T21:11:52Z < prahou> down to the beach, listening to the song of the seagulls

2024-12-15T21:12:03Z < prahou> night, hackers

2024-12-15T21:12:05Z < cow_2001> prahou: and the surf

2024-12-15T21:12:06Z < cow_2001> bye

2024-12-15T21:12:52Z < redruM> prahou: Nighty-night now, prahou!

2024-12-15T21:13:17Z < cow_2001> problem with beach walks is that the sand goes everywhere

2024-12-15T21:13:36Z < redruM> cow_2001: Always where you least expect it.

2024-12-15T21:13:54Z <@Reid> I don't really like beaches, tbh

2024-12-15T21:14:12Z <@Reid> the sea air is nice, but the beaches are all just so full of sand and it's awful

2024-12-15T21:14:39Z < cow_2001> and other people

2024-12-15T21:14:39Z <@Reid> well, the air feels nice, it's not so nice if you have anything made of meta

2024-12-15T21:15:03Z <@Reid> yeah, the sea also attracts a lot of people, including the kind you'd rather not deal with

2024-12-15T21:32:47Z < cow_2001> the racists at IBM/Redhat are about to get fucked (hopefully) :D

2024-12-15T21:33:04Z < cow_2001> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxFXQBXQ5cg https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5515346/the-ibm-red-hat-leaks-what-weve-learned-so-far

2024-12-15T21:33:25Z <@Reid> if you think I trust anything coming from lunduke you're sorely mistaken

2024-12-15T21:33:51Z <@Reid> if that guy says the sky is blue I'll rush to the window to see with my own eyes if it didn't actually turn purple

2024-12-15T21:35:54Z < sigrid> scrolled it, it's the "wokes and non-whites and women are racist towards White Man" kind of "racism"

2024-12-15T21:35:58Z < sigrid> closed the tab

2024-12-15T21:36:12Z <@Reid> ofc

2024-12-15T21:37:34Z <@Reid> tbh half the reason I don't watch any Linux channel

2024-12-15T21:37:54Z <@Reid> like 90% of them are just people using Linux and Free Software to spit right wing bullshit

2024-12-15T21:38:13Z * @Reid points at DistroTube's video "if you support Free Software, you must support gun rights"

2024-12-15T21:39:26Z < cow_2001> these racist ideologies are blowing up in their face

2024-12-15T21:39:30Z < sigrid> mental gymnastics backwards double salto

2024-12-15T21:40:04Z < cow_2001> racist policies

2024-12-15T21:40:09Z <@Reid> sigrid: why the italian at the end?

2024-12-15T21:40:31Z < sigrid> salto? idk what's the right word

2024-12-15T21:40:39Z < sigrid> i know "salto"

2024-12-15T21:41:15Z < sigrid> maybe a "flip"?

2024-12-15T21:41:29Z <@Reid> maybe

2024-12-15T21:41:31Z <@Reid> Idk

2024-12-15T21:50:26Z < cow_2001> got a reminder to see how these court cases go

2024-12-15T21:50:50Z < cow_2001> see if these discrimination suits go anywhere

2024-12-15T21:54:49Z < kunev> damn it I used to like Lunduke so much a few years back

2024-12-15T21:54:59Z < kunev> "linux sucks" was so great

2024-12-15T21:55:29Z < kunev> before he went crazy for some reason and started accusing everyone of being inflicted with "the woke mind virus" :(

2024-12-15T21:56:31Z < cow_2001> i call them the racist left

2024-12-15T21:58:27Z <@Reid> cow_2001: do you think anyone in this channel is racist?

2024-12-15T21:59:08Z < cow_2001> in subtle ways, maybe

2024-12-15T21:59:26Z < cow_2001> it is not as simple as the racist right

2024-12-15T21:59:38Z <@Reid> where is this racist left, tho

2024-12-15T22:00:11Z <@Reid> all the right wingers haven't shut up about it since 2016, but I haven't seen any proof of its existence, just vauge gestures at DEI

2024-12-15T22:00:19Z <@Reid> s/vauge/vague/

2024-12-15T22:02:56Z < cow_2001> the racist right just says it out right that there is an hierarchy of races. the racist left has some other world view which divides people according to race

2024-12-15T22:03:21Z < cow_2001> it is weird

2024-12-15T22:03:23Z <@Reid> and where's this world view dividing people according to race?

2024-12-15T22:04:33Z <@Reid> how does this division you're bringing up happen?

2024-12-15T22:07:21Z < cow_2001> some races have power, and that power is bad when it is not evenly distributed, but power is not money in the bank, power is mostly the melanin content of your skin

2024-12-15T22:08:10Z < cow_2001> the racist left is not just racist

2024-12-15T22:08:15Z <@Reid> that smells a lot like some poorly worded academic talk ran trough the right wing propaganda machine

2024-12-15T22:09:13Z < cow_2001> racist, sexist, all sorts of ists

2024-12-15T22:09:19Z <@Reid> the academic consensus that left wingers often times explain very poorly is that due to historic racism, society is still structured in a way that gives those perceived as "white" power over those who are not white, and the reason for the quotes is because the definition of whiteness has shifted a metric fuckton over the years

2024-12-15T22:09:29Z <@Reid> just 100 years ago, irish people weren't considered white

2024-12-15T22:09:58Z < kunev> there's a good deal of "debate" about what white is, especially in the US

2024-12-15T22:10:08Z <@Reid> point is

2024-12-15T22:10:44Z <@Reid> what cow just said there is how right wing propagandists misrepresent the complicated acamedic talk on "whiteness"

2024-12-15T22:11:03Z <@Reid> and I'mma be real, all that talk is needlessly complicated and far too easy to misrepresent as a result

2024-12-15T22:11:24Z <@Reid> but the boiled down version of it can be explained with this analogy

2024-12-15T22:14:06Z <@Reid> think redlining in the US: it has been abolished in the law for decades, but there still are black neighbourhoods and white neighbourhoods because the effects of redlining last for much longer than the policy and the people that enabled it, meaning that to this day, on average, white people have it better than black people (and by "have it better" I mean they're statistically less likely

2024-12-15T22:14:08Z <@Reid> to be stuck in a ghetto they'll never be able to get out of because of the vicious circle that is poverty)

2024-12-15T22:16:18Z < kunev> yep

2024-12-15T22:16:53Z <@Reid> also I guess "analogy" isn't really the word I was looking for

2024-12-15T22:16:55Z <@Reid> maybe "example"

2024-12-15T22:17:37Z < cow_2001> both the racist left and the racist right creep the fuck out of me

2024-12-15T22:17:54Z <@Reid> that's the thing, tho

2024-12-15T22:18:00Z <@Reid> the racist left is made up

2024-12-15T22:18:15Z <@Reid> racists just want to pretend they're actually the anti-racists

2024-12-15T22:18:16Z < cow_2001> i do not think it is

2024-12-15T22:18:44Z < cow_2001> they think they are good, but they are bad

2024-12-15T22:19:14Z <@Reid> well it is made up, you just listen to incoherent propaganda from Lunduke and others like him

2024-12-15T22:20:13Z < cow_2001> does not seem to be made up

2024-12-15T22:20:16Z <@Reid> biggots do this all the freaking time, try to frame themselves as the saviours of the ones they oppress by framing those against the oppression as doing a disservice to those being oppressed

2024-12-15T22:20:17Z < cow_2001> there are examples

2024-12-15T22:20:58Z <@Reid> yet all those examples come from right wingers and none hold up to scrutiny

2024-12-15T22:22:31Z < cow_2001> like asians and admissions to harvard

2024-12-15T22:22:38Z < cow_2001> that was a racist left policy

2024-12-15T22:25:15Z <@Reid> are you talking about affirmative action? sure, that was cringe, wasn't a left wing policy, tho, cause the US doesn't have any actual left wing politicians in power, it was neolibs trying to fix the lingering effects of systemic racism without acknowledging the system is still plagued by its dark past

2024-12-15T22:25:52Z <@Reid> closest to a left wing politician in power the US has are Bernie Sanders and AOC, and neither holds all that much power

2024-12-15T22:30:14Z < sigrid> this dude is really something

2024-12-15T22:30:27Z < sigrid> he probably studied at 4chan instead of school or smth

2024-12-15T22:30:52Z <@Reid> sigrid: never underestimaye the power of right wing propaganda on someone who is otherwise not very politically inclined

2024-12-15T22:31:15Z < sigrid> oh yeah, abaolutely

2024-12-15T22:31:25Z < sigrid> weak minds get washed very easily

2024-12-15T22:32:01Z <@Reid> I used to fall for a lot of the shit I'd hear from the likes of Lunduke too, what stopped me from sliding into the deep end is the fact I had a bunch of left wing friends so whenever I'd hear some outlandish shit from right wingers my mind would go to "wait, I know these people and they're not at all like that, what the fuck???"

2024-12-15T22:32:37Z <@Reid> but also the fact Lunduke is, objectively speaking, very boring to listen to

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2024-12-15T22:42:28Z < sigrid> it's sad really

2024-12-15T22:42:53Z < sigrid> a lot of these subconscious weak cowards will die never knowing

2024-12-15T22:44:05Z <@Reid> trying to break out of a world built into your mind by propaganda is a fight with your own mind, so a fight rigged against you

2024-12-15T22:45:06Z < sigrid> it is truly hilarious they think THEY are the red-pilled ones :D

2024-12-15T22:45:30Z < sigrid> falling the exact path of total mediocrity

2024-12-15T22:45:35Z <@Reid> to ackowledge it was all lies is to acknowledge you've fallen for lies, which is very damaging for one's ego and so your own mind subconciously does its best to stop you from it

2024-12-15T22:45:59Z <@Reid> sigrid: doesn't everyone think they've taken the red pill?

2024-12-15T22:46:08Z <@Reid> be it left wingers, right wingers, centrists etc

2024-12-15T22:46:09Z < sigrid> maybe

2024-12-15T22:46:22Z <@Reid> difference is why they think it

2024-12-15T22:47:34Z <@Reid> for people on the far right, it's usually some skizo shit like "the earth is flat", "the moon landing is fake", "vaccines are full of microchips", "water has memory and they're selling it in plastic bottles so it loses all that information/energy/vibration"

2024-12-15T22:48:15Z < sigrid> not all of them. some just really do all this with full logic

2024-12-15T22:48:17Z <@Reid> btw these last two I've heard ad nauseam from Calin Georgescu on TV so I'm fucking tired of them

2024-12-15T22:48:25Z < sigrid> ie o9a

2024-12-15T22:48:33Z <@Reid> dunno who that is

2024-12-15T22:48:39Z < sigrid> just a bit fucked in the head

2024-12-15T22:48:42Z < sigrid> google it

2024-12-15T22:49:19Z <@Reid> do I really want to, or is it knowledge I'd rather not waste neurons on?

2024-12-15T22:50:12Z < sigrid> judging by your question, probably the latter

2024-12-15T22:54:12Z < sigrid> tl;dr white people by far have more everything, yet somehow feel most attacked, so they proceed murdering literally anyone who isn't them

2024-12-15T22:55:05Z < sigrid> i so far believe it's a fear based on the fact of not being in fact any more special